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What an awful episode
There were only 8 people that went to this expedition..where did that random person that was mauled by the bear come from,? And where did that person that got attacked and killed by the white walkers come from?... Just before daenerys came with the dragons?..Anyways I liked the conversations btn the hound and tormmund
My only question for this incredible episode is... WHY did the Night King have several giant industrial chains with him and where were they keeping them? It's not like triple A serves the north beyond the wall
I like any episode where there are white walkers and I enjoyed this episode purely for that reason. That being said, this episode was also retarded
so who were diving to the water to put the chain in Viserion? we need answer.
🍸 drink! 🍺Every time Benioff or Weiss says, "...in terms of..." 👍
This show has dragons, a smoking hot fireproof dragon queen, a 300 year old red witch that gives birth to a murderous blood magic shadow baby monster, and an icy undead zombie army, and everyone's bangin' on about "logic"?! Is it THAT far-fetched to expand your suspension of disbelief to; "all-encompassing?"Instead of incessantly complaining, everyone should try to just enjoy it for what it is.Or, go watch something else!There's plenty of more entertainment available out there. for anyone who insists on watching more, "logic," based television. 👍
For all the hate this comment section has, a majority of the fanbase aren't so moody and focus on the positive of this episode and therefore they enjoyed it and that's including some book readers.
Why is Arya being so insane?
you know if they bothered to put an extra episode in the season maybe most of these issues would go away
Astonishing that D & D thought that this story was good.
Dany and Jon getting together is the end of me. My ship has finally sailed!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ That handsex scene make my heart flutter! Epic chemistry
Are Weiss and Benioff for real? Surely even they cant believe the BS they are saying.
Warning: Excessive amounts of whining and crying in the comments suggestion. You've been warned.
Am I the only one who thinks the face looks like Donald Trump?
there was supposed to be two dead bears, amirite?
S07e07 is last episode of 2017 or some left
2:49 he says 'coldhands' but its confirmed that Uncle Benjen is not Coldhands by George Martin himself!
Arya knew exactly what she was doing, game of faces means she was putting on a good facade, it's was all about convincing Littlefinger she was the bad Wolf 🐺 to the point even he wouldn't see the penny drop with Sansa because he trained her to much.
"For dragons are fire made flesh." - Quaithe(1) You can't use ice magic to give life to fire beings! (2) When the white walker died, all the humans he turned died as well. So we know that the humans use life energy supplied by the white walker. And we are supposed to believe, the Night King could just awake the dragon without any repercussions? Powerful magic always comes at a cost. The awakening of the ice dragon is a huge plot hole in an otherwise carefully crafted universe!
This was one of my favourite episodes. Yes, the premise was silly and some of the plot developments were highly questionable, to put it mildly (though the reveal of the Ice-Dragon was highly chilling). But what made it great was the character interactions at the start: the banter between Tormund and the Hound; the friendship between Berric and Thoros; Jorah refusing to take Jon's sword. What makes Game of Thrones the best show on television, in my view, is not the twists and turns in story, but the character developments, and particularly the attention the show pays to minor characters. In this aspect, the episode thrived, easing my earlier concerns that the show would become too dominated by Jon/Cersei/Dany. It was highly enjoyable.
Plot armour is when there are only 5 fodder men but 10 of them die. How? Doesn't matter as long as the mains are safe. Hollywood drama at it's finest.
where did the dead army find such huge chains?
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if only the writing was on par with the visuals and the acting...
Worst Episode of Game of Thrones so far. This felt like watching 'Hobbit' or LOTR not GOT.
Drogon's plot armour ricochets the Night King's ice spear, and it rebounds at Viserion, killing him in one hit,. So much for Qyburn's scorpions, after they were hyped up.Jon was holding them off? So what kwas Drogon doing meanwhile? The Hound climbed on Drogon with a Wight, but Jon couldn't climb atop Drogon with Dany's help? Instead he goes on a stroll in order to impress his Aunt, while everyone's waiting for him, giving the Night King enough time to go on his own stroll, and kill Viserion. Meanwhile Jon's still cutting down Wights, by the time they leave (without Jon) the Night King almost killed Drogon, luckily his plot armour saved him once again. World Records were broken by Gendry in running, the Night King in javelin, Jon in holding breath underwater. Along with Bronn swimming last episode. They keep hinting at Tyrion betraying Dany, due to her becoming like her father, the "Mad King", but he won't, because Jon serves Dany now, he'll never be able, or want to serve Cersie, he's literally got nowhere else to go. Dany won't become mad, because her, Jon, Tyrion & Jaime will be the main protagonists of season 8. Jamie will leave Kingslanding and Cersie will have a miscarriage, next episode. So the whole *only two people in this world* gimmick is over.So Benjin can ride with Meera and Bran at the same time, but not with Jon?Arya and Sansa's petty drama is worse than a Ed Sheeran's cameo, and they're using it to big up Littlefinger before, Bran drops some knowledge on Sansa, and Arya kills off Littlefinger in the finale. Cersie will never join them, but will instead betray them. Rendering the trip beyond the Wall completely useless. In conclusion, everyone who died beyond the Wall (Thoros, Viserion, Benjin and more), died in vain. Jon, alongside Drogon's plot armour killed Viserion. Winterfell plot is trash. Fake drama is brewing in Dragonstone. Cersie's about to take L's next episode. The Hound is a parkour god. Beric ran out of Quick Revive. The Night King has more force in the arm he uses to wank, than Qyburn's scorpions, even though like the Night King, Qyburn brought back the dead (the Mountain). D&D can't write for shit.
I'm really happy you „Who doesn't like the show shouldn't watch it“-guys aren't writers or show producers. All left of former art would be primitive reality shows without depth, just so after your hard working day you can chill in your armchair and get your daily dosis of Monkey-urges. I don't have a problem with you watching shows like that. But if you don't have ANY concept of scriptwriting don't argue with those who have. You also don't argue with a construction worker in how to build a house. If you want to argue tho, argue with real arguments and inform yourself before. Game of Thrones isn't desperitive housewives, sorry to dissapoint. It always was meant to be a complex, very deep story with a lot of detail. Not your usual fantasy hero epos. So don't turn it around. It is that way in the books and it was that way for 4-6 seasons. So if the writing waters down like that, it is correct to complain. Otherwise we would loose the art. There are enough stupid television shows you can watch, if you just want to have a „funny ride“. We can't just „stop watching“, because we also love(d) the show and grew with it. Seeing a masterpiece go down like that simply hurts.
Who needs a story when there are dragons and zombies fighting each other, not to mention a zombie bear. It's awesome!!!
SO MANY DAMN PLOt ideas and you CHOSE THE one where Dany and others choose tyrion's stupid idea of convincing Cersei!GOT team, what turned out as a non-cliched series has turned out to be the same climaxes where the main character gets saved from the same shit again and again.1. You could have killed Jaime Lannister with dragon fire. Cersei would lose her minister for a knight like in chess.2. Seeing tyrion mourning cd have had dany distrust him and imprison him.3. arya and sansa cd hv been playing their own game against littlefinger.4. this episode cd have had a battle with the night kings army at the wall, where some nights watch cd have fled to the kings landing and told they watched the undead.5. where is the dragon glass that jon mined. some bow and arrows to the night kings wights cd have killed his generals.
How can we make these characters survive this impossible situation? Oh yea, deus ex machina!
Where is the car? :D
They didn't explain why he bent the knee. That's all I came for because that was stupid.
So.. can the wights swim or not?
I've watched every season of GOT 3 times and by far this season is the worse so far season 6 wasn't so bad but this season is absolute shit just let George write the scripts or at least let the story unfold as he wants not as D&D wants it to end also should've made it 10 episodes and season 8 should be 10 episodes as well not 6 as planned or at lease 6 but 2 hours long...
THIS WAS THE BEST SHOW EVER WITH HUMAN CHARACTERS LOGICAL PLOT AND COMPLEX POLITICS. NOW STUPID PLOT NO CHARACTER DEVELOLMENT BUT ..........DRAGONS VS ICE ZOMBIES ........... THATS WHAT THE STUPID PEOPLE WANT.
To all the people saying critique isn't avlid because it's fantasy:Fantasy worlds have their rulesets, just like the real world. We learn of these rules throughout the series. Suddenly *breaking* the rules without foreshadowing, explaining or hinting that there's a reason isn't fantasy, it's bad writing.Breaking the Space-time-continuüm, teleportation, sudden zombie-uncles, spears of insta-death, brainless characters who used to be smart and robot-esque bad guys are not in any way tolerable.
The thing people say about Benjen being able to get on the horse, he is in contact with the three eyed crew and the children of the forest. Therfore would he not maybe know that it was his time to die? Also, he had been in a shitty undead state for years, he probably wanted to die
I think the reason why the the night king's army was so small and weak is because the night king knew that Daenerys would arrive with her dragons and tried to minimize his loss. I can't imagine why he would bring chains with him if he didn't know what was going to happen.
To D&D§s credit we didnt see how and who exactly put those chains on
I think George and D&D collaborated closely together untill season 6 then they have argued and season 7 went into the toilet.
I've never, ever seen such a blatant display of screenwriting diarrhoea.
This very eposide ruined the entire show for me
My shit can write better scripts you Dumb&Dumber
So yesterday my wife went in labor while I was at work. She called me and I drove straight back home where she was already waiting for me on the front porch. I got out of the car and guided her to the driver's seat. "Aren't you coming with me?" she asked, confusion in her eyes. "I'm sorry, there is no time." I responded.
Until this season, GoT was my absolute favorite TV-series. Now that the story is straying from the books it's all collapsing though. Every single episode so far I've been like: 'Ok, that doesn't really make sense but whatever.' But episode 6 is really just too much. The shots are nice, sure, but the story doesn't make any sense at all. Seems like the writers were just piggybacking off of George's talent because this could've been written by a ten year old.
The writers just said that jon was sacrificing himself but the director made it look like jon was tryna get his kill count up. Jon was literally going towards like 3 Of them. The director could have made it like there were 20 And he's actually holding them off so his team can be safe
There were some good parts, alot of bad parts but one thing i haven't really scene mentioned is Daenarys weak reaction to Viseryons death... She loves to remind us they are her children yet when her dragon died she seemed so much more focused on Jon who shes known for 5 minutes as oppose to actually reacting emotionally to the death of her "child"at any point in the episode. Not to mention the love story between her and Jon seems so rushed and forced... Really disappointing episode.
The production quality was, as always, astonishing. saying that this episode was shit is a joke. so big respect and congratulation to the team. But, the story is going down the drain in season 7! The writing was so good in previous season, with solid plots and complex but detailed stories. it took an entire season for key characters to make progress, and we would always be surprised by how things would turn out.; this was not at the cost of excellent action.This last episode felt like everything was over simplified and rushed just to "solve" the situation the main character are in, with no consideration for the original style of the series. I hope George R. R. Martin will be more involved in the last season.
D & D are the shittiest story writers when it comes to the most important story ever!! So many illogical things happened! WHY DIDN'T YOU DO 10 EPISODES? Whether it was the actors wanting too much money per episode or HBO saying no which makes no fucking sense, you should've pushed for it or not done it at all! AND WHERE IS GHOST? You'd rather spend the budget on an unneeded wight polar bear (undead horses already prove the point for having an undead wight or white walker dragon) than have a central character in the story who should be beside Jon always?
theres no source material any more, the book is not here. so they have to end it in a way that martin envisioned, and tying up the story. which martin failed to do so into his 5th book.
How does Dany go from "WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!?!" To "Oh Jon Snow baby I love you I don't care that you had one of my children killed"? Don't hate me I'm just curious
Benjin saves the day again, what happened to benjin and were has he been hiding for so long I know he saved bran and meera but before that were has he been, suggestions please.
Writers and makers of the series proofed that they owe a shitload of their sucess to JR MArtin, as soon as he's gone we have this bullshit hollywood crap with infinte mistakes, shallow wrtining, deus ex machina moments. Are you guys gonne do the same trick in all the battles from now? SOmebody coming in at the last moment to save everybody (knights of the vale, danny's dragons, benjen 2 times)? Because I am gonna know how each battle ends from now. No more important charachters die, cause everybody is allways saved.... pictures and CGI is not what Got big you idiots
Jon Snow suddenly made an alliance with Daenerys...you fucked up the whole show
This episode didn't seem to be so well thought out as previous ones. Why didn't John Snow and the others take any dragon glass (e.g. for arrow tips) with them? or camping stuff? How did Gendry get back so quickly? Why didn't they use the hammer to smash the ice and prevent the army of the dead reaching them? The thing I liked about previous episodes is that the characters and their actions are believable. This episode relies more on luck and implausible feats of human endurance, when it didn't have to.
QUE ALGUIEN LE PONGA SUBTITULOS EN ESPAÑOL FORROS DE MIERDA VAYANSE A LA CONCHA DE SU MADRE
If Night King is a greenseer and used Jon&co as bait to lure Dany&dragons... then WHY did the wights try to kill their bait (after the lake froze as well as before) when they already had them cornered on the island?!I call BS on Night King is greenseer theory. This was just bad writing.
You guys are so retarded. They put so MUCH effort and money into this show, and give us amazing episodes every week, and you guys cant fucking stop complaining and crying. This is one of the best episodes ever made, AND the writing was perfect as it has always been! You guys just need a little opportunity to start bashing a 10/10 show. Imagine if they reduce budget and crew because of your shitty comments!
Ok I think I figured out how it should've gone down. Episode 5 - After Jon receives word from Bran that the Wights are descending onto East Watch, Jon realises the sea north of there would be frozen, and the wights can walk around. He decides that they need to ‘break the ice’, but isn't sure how. Davos states the obvious - Using Dany’s dragons - but Jon warns that the Whitewalkers have supernatural powers, and wouldn't want the dragon to be harmed. Dany doesn't believe her Dragons would be in danger, but Tyrion further convinces her against it, as she would be risking her life too. Tyrion suggests there might be some wildfire left from under Kings Landing. Davos smuggles Tyrion in, and Tyrion asks Jaime for access to the remaining wildfire. They take it back to Dragonstone, and then Jon and co take everything up to East Watch. Episode 6 - Jon and co venture along the edge of the North of Eastwatch, finding the point where the sea starts to freeze. The go even further, and work their way back, laying down the wildfire, in a hope to create a chain reaction effect. They see Wights coming on the horizon. They quickly set a light the fire, it explodes, and a crack forms in the frozen sea. It starts to break, and piece by piece, it starts to fall away, revealing the sea once again. But the wights are already on their way. Jon and co race back, trying to fend of an initial attack. Jon can see that they are being chased into a canyon, with no escape. He orders Gendry to run back to East Watch and send word for Dany. The guys are trapped on the ice hill in the middle of the canyon, surrounded by wights. Eventually the lake freezes back, and the wights attack again, Jon and co in a relentless fight. Thoros dies. Eventually, they are right on top of the hill, completely surrounded. Dany arrives just in time with her dragons, burning many of the wights. Drogon lands, allowing Jon and co onto his back. Jorah is the last one still on the ground fighting. Night King throws a spear to Viserion, stabbing him, but not a major injury. He can still fly away. Night King is about to throw another spear, right at Drogon, but as he does, Jorah jumps in the way, sacrificing himself to save Drogon, Dany and co. Dany is in despair that Jorah dies, but flies away with Jon and co. All three dragons make it back, but Viserion is harmed.
The writers aren't the ones to blame for the pacing this season - WE ARE. We have made this show and the actors who play our fav characters so popular that the budget has grown out of control. What show do you know films on multiple continents at the same time? ya'll should youtube what type of $$$$ goes into producing one season of GOT because it trumps your average feature film that would be shown in a theater. I rather see 7 solid- good - excellent episodes vs. 12 boring -mediocre - good episodes.
Schun Johnson You do know that along with the budget going up, the earnings from this series has shot thru the roof too (GoT is one of the top grossing tv series ever created)... or am I wrong?
I honestly feel sorry for the crews. They basically had to do all the difficult writing without books as source material. GRRM writes best, but the books didn't catch up. Hoping the best for the finale and the next season.
My main problem with this new season is Arya. Why the fuck is she suddenly an all inclusive, mysterious murderous psychopath. Why? And it amplifies the cringe because of how short she is, and how weak she physically is. Why HBO, WHYYYY!?
Since Viserion was heavily injured before his death - does his undead version still have the ability to fly?
hrclip.net/video/qUMGGy8fsHg/video.html MAYBE that is benjen on the left bottom side infront of a pack of wights. black cape, black hair, standing like a human, sword on the left side of hip. Clearly not dressed as a wildling, or a whitewalker.
Reading all the comments make me love the show more. Because it makes the stupid think, and it makes the smart gain wisdom. Whatever people argue about GOT we can't deny it that it help people to process their brains hahaha! ;)
There were a few minor plot holes and I'm not too fussed about the Arya/Sansa plot but because still one of my favourite episodes just because of the scenes beyond the wall and how it made me feel when Viseryon died
book readers go fuck yourselves i hope GRRM dies before he finished WOW.... so you can all remain butthurt spastic salty retards for ever.
Only thing I like about this episode is Dany getting close to Jon. And for God's sake please make Jon mind full when he charges into a battle. People should learn from their mistakes and here in westeros no body seems to learn.
D & D: "We have no idea what we're doing."
The ONLY thing that I didn't like about this ep was the chains part. How could they possibly have gotten those chains and wrapped them around the dragon and pulled them up
Daario should also come to westeros. With the spoilers saying about golden company being hired by Cersei, Daario and his second sons should come to westeros tailing the golden company as Dany+Jon and their army now look outnumbered with the Lannisters, iron fleet, army of the dead and the golden company all trying to destroy them. Cersei has no intentions to fight the night king and this makes the future for Dany and Jon and their people very scary. Daario will be a miracle in deliverance.
What the flying fuck is cold hands
In this episode Bran and his skills should have been used. Like he watching Jon and party ranging beyond wall, they setting trap to ambush the Wight platoon headed by a white walker . While they are ambushing the Wight platoon Bran would have seen the entire army that was at a calling distance if the captured Wight howls. So Bran uses his teleportation skills to deliver the sos to dany. And after Jon was left all alone, Bran should be the one to ask Benjen to rescue Jon. This would have made this even more believable rather than a laser fast Raven from east watch to dragon stone. I feel in a rush to finish the plots are being made with loopholes. Hope the final season addresses these and uses the main characters more.
When Jon gets out of the water the eyes on Longclaw open.
I do have ONE question for this episode: When Jon killed the white walker & the Wights just fall apart, which was pretty cool. Why did the one they got, not fall apart like the others? The only thing I can think off is that that wight was not turned by that White Walker. Other then that, I have no fricking clue. Other then that, awesome episode:)
Has anyone else thought there might be something to the Drowned Gods saying "what is dead can never die" and that Jon, Jaime, and Euron have all drowned and risen?
im just pissed they didnt call viserion by his name. "the dragon", "it", HE'S A BABY
I shake my head in disbelief when I see people with such absolutism and fanboyism, labelling people that point out obvious inconsistencies in the plot, as ''whiners'', ''complainers'' or ''haters''. It is called critique people! Not every one has the ability to ignore or simply force themselves to not care about the imperfections of the episode writing of this season. You like the episodes? Good for you then! But you have to accept the fact that the writing quality is not what it used to be compared to previous seasons. Because we have seen better. This episode in particular had so many plot holes, deus ex machinas and other events just so they can off certain characters and cram even more events just for the sake of it... that is really hard to miss!
Best episode ever i was hooked from start excluding winter fell bits
Most amazing Episode of Game of Thrones so far. Keep up the great work!
The Arya & Sansa subplot is absolutely idiotic, given both characters' story arcs over the past 6 seasons.. It beggars belief how they would suddenly start acting like they were in season 1 again
I love how nobody gets that it doesn't fucking matter if the time works out not. What matters is that the question pops into your head and the suspension of disbelief is broken for the audience.
Strange how Arya is all against Sansa just by a letter written ages ago agreeing and serving lannnisters under different circumstances.. and so why did she serve Tywin lannnister at all ??? Eh ? Arya's character being unreasonable... Hope ep7 brings some logic
I have my dragon s death !
they basically just killed all the arya/night king theories in this video.
People are complaining...a part of me can understand why BUT if I came to the point that if I have to complain about GOT it means that life is not worth living it, so I decided to enjoy every minute of the show until the end.... which is SOON.... so don't waste your time on being negative guys :) ENJOYYYYY !!
a fucking Zombie Dragon...
FIX THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
So leaving Jon behind just to give Benjen his stupid dead with no time to jump on the horse to get Jon safe to the wall.. It’s all so bad writing. You could have benjen show up in the great battle for the wall. Going dead defending the wall like a night watch.
At least you saw the solar eclipse in the reflection haha. It'll be back for us in SW Ontario at 2024
Weakest one in the series. Please write those plots carefully for the next season.
Is it clear what Vecerion is?A wight animated from the dead? Like a dead being?OrA whitewalker animated from life? Like a Craster baby?
"...by saving, first Bran, and now, Jon." - Wow, great idea, make him do the same thing twice.
The visual for dragons and zombies was amazing! But so many plotholes!! I used to feel stupid when i watched earlier seasons, coz the writing was so smart and i love their strategies and scheming. This season feels more like a comedy, especially this episode. Feels like its no longer GoT, but some cheap superheroes movie! Still, gotta love all th actors for briliant acting.
If Thoros was bitten by a white walker bear, why didn't they just go back and wait for him to transform, why catch a dead dude when one is already being turned....
Get your shit together Weiss and Benioff
How did the giant that died in winterfell get beyond the wall to the dead army? (s7 ep1)
No problem :)
Thank you. I was kind of confused because there were 3 of them like in the wildling army
It is not the same giant. They just look the same.This shot didn't want to show that Wun Wun (the Giant at Winterfell) is in the army of the dead. It wanted show that the Night King is able to revive more than just humans.
pls someone tell me
What a script! So much storytelling in a few episodes. Highly unpredictable plot except Jon and Dany. More action less talks. In total, Mind blowing
The romance was rushed and has zero chemistry - they only ever talked about the war, strategy etc, there was no real talk to create a connection.
Goes North but doesn't bring Ghost?
NightKnight Ghost hasn't even been in season 7. It's so freaking sad. :(
When will you finally kill off Arya? it's easily been the most ridiculous and irritating plot line for the last 2 seasons but now you've gone over the top..